Is Nudity Unnecessary in Horror Films?
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Is Nudity Unnecessary in Horror Films?
Disclaimer
Known Clichés:
Movies namely the Horror genre has a catalog of TV or Movie Tropes! Mostly noticeable for nudity in the horror genre is...
- Mom and Dad sneaking away from the kids or party.
- Boyfriend and Girlfriend sneaking away from friends/parties.
- Drunk or High Friends or Couples in an abandoned house or in the woods.
- Cheating Boyfriend/Girlfriend with Protagonists Best Friend
- The "Virgins" first time having sex.
- Porngraphic style acting/scenes.
- Girl somehow not knowing it's not her lover? (Yeah...this is a thing)
- Just horny teenagers (18+)/adults (Above 18+)
Arguments:
Their arguments can be viewed within both spectrums of the two-sided coins and that's VERY understandable for example.
Some horror fans would comment they would see it for some sort of female desire or admiration of the female body, be it male or Female...
Some horror fans would comment they aren't here to see the pointless nudity for the runtime or that they aren't here for some wannabe Romeo/Juliet skit where it's just there
These arguments are all given from a perspective so I wanna see what the fellow Horror Community feels/believes about this discussion!
To also note for the readers, I've seen some individual online who aren't bigger known actors/actresses outside/inside the adult industry who genuinely say it's fun/a fun experience for some or that it's a kink for them so everyone has a different perspective on this matter not just the general adult actors/actresses!
My Opinion:
Nudity to me in a horror film is just for a specific part of the fandom and there's nothing wrong with that BUT I also agree that some nudity is WAY too forced in a horror movie...
Some are turned straight pornos or just cringe fests with people who clearly aren't experienced in fake sex acting...with that said some horror franchises DO run on Nudity and well a few don't and example?
Friday the 13th Part VI: Jason Lives has NO NUDITY within the franchise and is a Fan-Favorite by the Majority of the F13 Community.
Friday the 13th Part VII: The New Blood has mild nudity and is also a fan favorite by half the F13 community.
But look at Friday the 13th Part V: A New Beginning it has ALOT of Nudity and well...it kinda ruined a beloved actress's career as a Teacher and shows the cause and effect some films have on those who work in such a field and yet it's a Black Sheep by the F13 Community.
So it does reflect by the audience that Nudity is either a Pro or a Con! The current Halloween Reboot didn't even focus on sex like the original with the horny teenager's cliche.
I don't personally believe its currently ruining modern horror and it's to each their own I don't believe it's objectively sexist as Im sure a female actress lead or not would decline such things if they didn't want to be nude or having fake sex on screen and let me state this before anyone tries to manipulate my own words...if a female actress or even a male actor was MANIPULATED or FORCED to do a Nude or sex scene then I DO NOT SUPPORT IT! it's not just immoral but it's also mentally or physically abusive and in some cases, it's both and there are no justifiable actions by any measures of the word that someone should be manipulated into doing something like this especially if it's viewed by a thousand or a million people.
And with that said as well I am a supporter of anyone's interpretation of Art nudity or not BUT excessive nudity to me is UNHEALTHY in nature! I am in between the spectrum of this debate of Neutral, not Pro or Against Nudity as I love the kills, gore again, and body counts.
As for storylines and lore? That's Secondary to me personally! Not my main focus for horror!
So my question to the horror community (or the general public) is Nudity in Horror Unnecessary? Sexist? And Unwanted? Why or why not?
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My opinion is that when I go to a horror movie, I want to see a story get told. I'm going to admit I get turned off by seeing nudity. At this point in time, I've seen so much of this stuff, I don't want to see any more.
I think it does hurt the genre and some of the people who watch the movies. I think it hurts the genre, in part, because it seems to market to the lowest common denominator in getting people to watch. I grew up as a teenager watching some other guys my age got the wrong idea about how people are supposed to dress and act.
I've seen the same thing in college during my undergraduate career where guys who have moved from other countries to the United States thinking they will automatically "get some" just by virtue of talking to the girls in the dorm. These guys had actually told me they had seen American movies, and they thought American girls were just like what they saw in the movies. Maybe they are, but here's no guarantee you'll be " getting busy" with a girl, especially if you're just making conversation for the very first time. It's almost like these guys thought making eye contact was enough to get a one-night stand.
I have to admit I may have been damaged myself. A guy I knew wanted to watch a horror movie with me that he had. It was loaded with nudity, and I just was too young and not ready. I still feel a bit hesitant about getting around this stuff.
I think it does hurt the genre and some of the people who watch the movies. I think it hurts the genre, in part, because it seems to market to the lowest common denominator in getting people to watch. I grew up as a teenager watching some other guys my age got the wrong idea about how people are supposed to dress and act.
I've seen the same thing in college during my undergraduate career where guys who have moved from other countries to the United States thinking they will automatically "get some" just by virtue of talking to the girls in the dorm. These guys had actually told me they had seen American movies, and they thought American girls were just like what they saw in the movies. Maybe they are, but here's no guarantee you'll be " getting busy" with a girl, especially if you're just making conversation for the very first time. It's almost like these guys thought making eye contact was enough to get a one-night stand.
I have to admit I may have been damaged myself. A guy I knew wanted to watch a horror movie with me that he had. It was loaded with nudity, and I just was too young and not ready. I still feel a bit hesitant about getting around this stuff.
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ThePunisher wrote:My opinion is that when I go to a horror movie, I want to see a story get told. I'm going to admit I get turned off by seeing nudity. At this point in time, I've seen so much of this stuff, I don't want to see any more.
I think it does hurt the genre and some of the people who watch the movies. I think it hurts the genre, in part, because it seems to market to the lowest common denominator in getting people to watch. I grew up as a teenager watching some other guys my age got the wrong idea about how people are supposed to dress and act.
I've seen the same thing in college during my undergraduate career where guys who have moved from other countries to the United States thinking they will automatically "get some" just by virtue of talking to the girls in the dorm. These guys had actually told me they had seen American movies, and they thought American girls were just like what they saw in the movies. Maybe they are, but here's no guarantee you'll be " getting busy" with a girl, especially if you're just making conversation for the very first time. It's almost like these guys thought making eye contact was enough to get a one-night stand.
I have to admit I may have been damaged myself. A guy I knew wanted to watch a horror movie with me that he had. It was loaded with nudity, and I just was too young and not ready. I still feel a bit hesitant about getting around this stuff.
Interesting take! I grew up on horror in the literal sense lol! My mom was pregnant with me watching horror movies and I was just automatically addicted to it at a young age didn't matter if it was Slasher, Kaiju, or Zombies! I watched it for the gore and anytime it was nudity she either covered my eyes or told me to cover my eyes and despite it, she realized early that I didn't care for breast/ass at that time whatsoever, I was focused on the monsters themselves more than anything else, I don't personally care for nudity but that instinct in our brains when we get older is "hehe boobies" for some of the more younger generations vs us older generation horror fans.
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Jason Voorhees wrote:ThePunisher wrote:My opinion is that when I go to a horror movie, I want to see a story get told. I'm going to admit I get turned off by seeing nudity. At this point in time, I've seen so much of this stuff, I don't want to see any more.
I think it does hurt the genre and some of the people who watch the movies. I think it hurts the genre, in part, because it seems to market to the lowest common denominator in getting people to watch. I grew up as a teenager watching some other guys my age got the wrong idea about how people are supposed to dress and act.
I've seen the same thing in college during my undergraduate career where guys who have moved from other countries to the United States thinking they will automatically "get some" just by virtue of talking to the girls in the dorm. These guys had actually told me they had seen American movies, and they thought American girls were just like what they saw in the movies. Maybe they are, but here's no guarantee you'll be " getting busy" with a girl, especially if you're just making conversation for the very first time. It's almost like these guys thought making eye contact was enough to get a one-night stand.
I have to admit I may have been damaged myself. A guy I knew wanted to watch a horror movie with me that he had. It was loaded with nudity, and I just was too young and not ready. I still feel a bit hesitant about getting around this stuff.
Interesting take! I grew up on horror in the literal sense lol! My mom was pregnant with me watching horror movies and I was just automatically addicted to it at a young age didn't matter if it was Slasher, Kaiju, or Zombies! I watched it for the gore and anytime it was nudity she either covered my eyes or told me to cover my eyes and despite it, she realized early that I didn't care for breast/ass at that time whatsoever, I was focused on the monsters themselves more than anything else, I don't personally care for nudity but that instinct in our brains when we get older is "hehe boobies" for some of the more younger generations vs us older generation horror fans.
Your last line was why I put in the remark over the "least common denominator". The people saying "hehe boobies" are the ones who aren't there for the movie. They also seem to spend half the time talking on their cell phone or going for more snacks at the concession stand.
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ThePunisher wrote:Jason Voorhees wrote:ThePunisher wrote:My opinion is that when I go to a horror movie, I want to see a story get told. I'm going to admit I get turned off by seeing nudity. At this point in time, I've seen so much of this stuff, I don't want to see any more.
I think it does hurt the genre and some of the people who watch the movies. I think it hurts the genre, in part, because it seems to market to the lowest common denominator in getting people to watch. I grew up as a teenager watching some other guys my age got the wrong idea about how people are supposed to dress and act.
I've seen the same thing in college during my undergraduate career where guys who have moved from other countries to the United States thinking they will automatically "get some" just by virtue of talking to the girls in the dorm. These guys had actually told me they had seen American movies, and they thought American girls were just like what they saw in the movies. Maybe they are, but here's no guarantee you'll be " getting busy" with a girl, especially if you're just making conversation for the very first time. It's almost like these guys thought making eye contact was enough to get a one-night stand.
I have to admit I may have been damaged myself. A guy I knew wanted to watch a horror movie with me that he had. It was loaded with nudity, and I just was too young and not ready. I still feel a bit hesitant about getting around this stuff.
Interesting take! I grew up on horror in the literal sense lol! My mom was pregnant with me watching horror movies and I was just automatically addicted to it at a young age didn't matter if it was Slasher, Kaiju, or Zombies! I watched it for the gore and anytime it was nudity she either covered my eyes or told me to cover my eyes and despite it, she realized early that I didn't care for breast/ass at that time whatsoever, I was focused on the monsters themselves more than anything else, I don't personally care for nudity but that instinct in our brains when we get older is "hehe boobies" for some of the more younger generations vs us older generation horror fans.
Your last line was why I put in the remark over the "least common denominator". The people saying "hehe boobies" are the ones who aren't there for the movie. They also seem to spend half the time talking on their cell phone or going for more snacks at the concession stand.
Correct! those demographics are the worse but sadly they help keep the genre alive with ticket sales! If they see even side-boob they would be 7/10 satisfied, I've seen some comments on social media where some are commenting "Wheres the nudity?" or "Why wasn't there?" in certain movies and I am thinking to myself...Horror ISN'T about the nudity tho! You and me can agree that Nudity is very much Meh to us in the horror genre like if its not romance or something why really focus on that?? Friday the 13th made it watchable and then others tried to mimick and it made it cringy!
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Jason Voorhees wrote:ThePunisher wrote:Jason Voorhees wrote:ThePunisher wrote:My opinion is that when I go to a horror movie, I want to see a story get told. I'm going to admit I get turned off by seeing nudity. At this point in time, I've seen so much of this stuff, I don't want to see any more.
I think it does hurt the genre and some of the people who watch the movies. I think it hurts the genre, in part, because it seems to market to the lowest common denominator in getting people to watch. I grew up as a teenager watching some other guys my age got the wrong idea about how people are supposed to dress and act.
I've seen the same thing in college during my undergraduate career where guys who have moved from other countries to the United States thinking they will automatically "get some" just by virtue of talking to the girls in the dorm. These guys had actually told me they had seen American movies, and they thought American girls were just like what they saw in the movies. Maybe they are, but here's no guarantee you'll be " getting busy" with a girl, especially if you're just making conversation for the very first time. It's almost like these guys thought making eye contact was enough to get a one-night stand.
I have to admit I may have been damaged myself. A guy I knew wanted to watch a horror movie with me that he had. It was loaded with nudity, and I just was too young and not ready. I still feel a bit hesitant about getting around this stuff.
Interesting take! I grew up on horror in the literal sense lol! My mom was pregnant with me watching horror movies and I was just automatically addicted to it at a young age didn't matter if it was Slasher, Kaiju, or Zombies! I watched it for the gore and anytime it was nudity she either covered my eyes or told me to cover my eyes and despite it, she realized early that I didn't care for breast/ass at that time whatsoever, I was focused on the monsters themselves more than anything else, I don't personally care for nudity but that instinct in our brains when we get older is "hehe boobies" for some of the more younger generations vs us older generation horror fans.
Your last line was why I put in the remark over the "least common denominator". The people saying "hehe boobies" are the ones who aren't there for the movie. They also seem to spend half the time talking on their cell phone or going for more snacks at the concession stand.
Correct! those demographics are the worse but sadly they help keep the genre alive with ticket sales! If they see even side-boob they would be 7/10 satisfied, I've seen some comments on social media where some are commenting "Wheres the nudity?" or "Why wasn't there?" in certain movies and I am thinking to myself...Horror ISN'T about the nudity tho! You and me can agree that Nudity is very much Meh to us in the horror genre like if its not romance or something why really focus on that?? Friday the 13th made it watchable and then others tried to mimick and it made it cringy!
I guess the feeling is that sex sells the movie more than the plotline sells the movie. Remember the line from Scream " Motive is incidental"?
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I am not opposed to any type of graphic or non graphic themes shown in movies as long as it fits the story.
With that said some things are way over the top done for shock value some times it works some times it doesn’t that includes nudity and violence…..
One instance in a movie that comes to mind is Terrifier ( I haven’t seen the second not sure I will.) that scene with the saw was just ridiculous with over done nudity and violence combined….. for me that’s not what I want to see I want scares and thrills not to be disgusted …. But it’s a niche market and everything has a selling point to someone….including shock value Horror
With that said some things are way over the top done for shock value some times it works some times it doesn’t that includes nudity and violence…..
One instance in a movie that comes to mind is Terrifier ( I haven’t seen the second not sure I will.) that scene with the saw was just ridiculous with over done nudity and violence combined….. for me that’s not what I want to see I want scares and thrills not to be disgusted …. But it’s a niche market and everything has a selling point to someone….including shock value Horror
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That is very true! Wes Craven and the writers were ahead of their time during this film!ThePunisher wrote:I guess the feeling is that sex sells the movie more than the plotline sells the movie. Remember the line from Scream " Motive is incidental"?
I can definitely see this point of few! Horror definitely is losing the senses of being creepy, scary, and overall goosebumps-inducing! I have to rewatch Terrifier and might even see the sequel later this year in December because during the time I had no money to really see movies didn't even see Halloween Ends in Theatres sadly...OCT 31 1978 wrote:I am not opposed to any type of graphic or non graphic themes shown in movies as long as it fits the story.
With that said some things are way over the top done for shock value some times it works some times it doesn’t that includes nudity and violence…..
One instance in a movie that comes to mind is Terrifier ( I haven’t seen the second not sure I will.) that scene with the saw was just ridiculous with over done nudity and violence combined….. for me that’s not what I can to see I want scares and thrills not to be disgusting…. But it’s a niche market and everything has a selling point to someone.
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Jason Voorhees wrote:That is very true! Wes Craven and the writers were ahead of their time during this film!ThePunisher wrote:I guess the feeling is that sex sells the movie more than the plotline sells the movie. Remember the line from Scream " Motive is incidental"?I can definitely see this point of few! Horror definitely is losing the senses of being creepy, scary, and overall goosebumps-inducing! I have to rewatch Terrifier and might even see the sequel later this year in December because during the time I had no money to really see movies didn't even see Halloween Ends in Theatres sadly...OCT 31 1978 wrote:I am not opposed to any type of graphic or non graphic themes shown in movies as long as it fits the story.
With that said some things are way over the top done for shock value some times it works some times it doesn’t that includes nudity and violence…..
One instance in a movie that comes to mind is Terrifier ( I haven’t seen the second not sure I will.) that scene with the saw was just ridiculous with over done nudity and violence combined….. for me that’s not what I can to see I want scares and thrills not to be disgusting…. But it’s a niche market and everything has a selling point to someone.
No worries, you saved yourself a lot of money…..I didn’t watch it theaters either and I am glad I didn’t….. I would have most likely walked out.
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OCT 31 1978 wrote:Jason Voorhees wrote:That is very true! Wes Craven and the writers were ahead of their time during this film!ThePunisher wrote:I guess the feeling is that sex sells the movie more than the plotline sells the movie. Remember the line from Scream " Motive is incidental"?I can definitely see this point of few! Horror definitely is losing the senses of being creepy, scary, and overall goosebumps-inducing! I have to rewatch Terrifier and might even see the sequel later this year in December because during the time I had no money to really see movies didn't even see Halloween Ends in Theatres sadly...OCT 31 1978 wrote:I am not opposed to any type of graphic or non graphic themes shown in movies as long as it fits the story.
With that said some things are way over the top done for shock value some times it works some times it doesn’t that includes nudity and violence…..
One instance in a movie that comes to mind is Terrifier ( I haven’t seen the second not sure I will.) that scene with the saw was just ridiculous with over done nudity and violence combined….. for me that’s not what I can to see I want scares and thrills not to be disgusting…. But it’s a niche market and everything has a selling point to someone.
No worries, you saved yourself a lot of money…..I didn’t watch it theaters either and I am glad I didn’t….. I would have most likely walk out.
I even realized the current Halloween timeline was honestly PG-13! I don't really remember seeing nudity or a sex scene!
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OCT 31 1978 wrote:I am not opposed to any type of graphic or non graphic themes shown in movies as long as it fits the story.
With that said some things are way over the top done for shock value some times it works some times it doesn’t that includes nudity and violence…..
One instance in a movie that comes to mind is Terrifier ( I haven’t seen the second not sure I will.) that scene with the saw was just ridiculous with over done nudity and violence combined….. for me that’s not what I want to see I want scares and thrills not to be disgusting…. But it’s a niche market and everything has a selling point to someone.
Did you see Saw 3 with the freezer scene?
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You missed the biggest trope of them all! The seemingly mandatory, arguably hot girl undressing in the bathroom before climbing into the shower scene, that felt like it was a part of every slasher movie to come out of the 80's... And a lot more locker room scenes with an entire group of girls barring all, than you think would exist.
I remember being a teenager, and the chance at seeing nudity in some of those horror films was definitely a selling point... But that was through the eyes of a hormonal teenager who, at the time, didn't have many avenues to scratch that particular itch unless you had a relative or friend with a hidden stash of a... Certain type of magazine, cough, cough.
Now that I'm an adult, I could honestly care less if I never saw another set of boobs or pointless sex scene in another horror movie ever again. I don't mind seeing it either, but obligatory nudity is at the absolute bottom of things I'm looking for in a horror movie. In fact, it's not even on the list at all.
While the big franchises have never really needed nudity, although some of them definitely have used it, a lot of the second tier and below slasher films treated nudity and sex like they were a requirement, which I don't feel helped with the perception of sex in horror being an expectation rather than something that's occasionally just there.
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And as much as I hate to get political, I don't feel like I have a choice since 'Horror' being sexist towards women has definitely become a Culture War issue. Male gaze, blah, blah, blah... How dare men find women in movies attractive, like there's not thousands of romcoms with insanely attractive men. Is it sexist? Depends on the circumstances, and quite frankly, the subject is very subjective. If the woman doesn't mind showing off her body then what's the big deal? Twitter warriors don't have the right to tell her she can't or try to shame her for doing so just because her actions don't comply with some snowflakes modern sensibilities. That being said though, no actor should be pressured or even forced to be shown nude on camera if their not comfortable with it, nor should they be fired from or denied a role because their unwilling to do so... And there are a lot of story's out there about actresses in horror movies being pressured to do nude scenes out of fear they'd lose their roles in the film, and that practice is objectively disgusting.
I remember being a teenager, and the chance at seeing nudity in some of those horror films was definitely a selling point... But that was through the eyes of a hormonal teenager who, at the time, didn't have many avenues to scratch that particular itch unless you had a relative or friend with a hidden stash of a... Certain type of magazine, cough, cough.
Now that I'm an adult, I could honestly care less if I never saw another set of boobs or pointless sex scene in another horror movie ever again. I don't mind seeing it either, but obligatory nudity is at the absolute bottom of things I'm looking for in a horror movie. In fact, it's not even on the list at all.
While the big franchises have never really needed nudity, although some of them definitely have used it, a lot of the second tier and below slasher films treated nudity and sex like they were a requirement, which I don't feel helped with the perception of sex in horror being an expectation rather than something that's occasionally just there.
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And as much as I hate to get political, I don't feel like I have a choice since 'Horror' being sexist towards women has definitely become a Culture War issue. Male gaze, blah, blah, blah... How dare men find women in movies attractive, like there's not thousands of romcoms with insanely attractive men. Is it sexist? Depends on the circumstances, and quite frankly, the subject is very subjective. If the woman doesn't mind showing off her body then what's the big deal? Twitter warriors don't have the right to tell her she can't or try to shame her for doing so just because her actions don't comply with some snowflakes modern sensibilities. That being said though, no actor should be pressured or even forced to be shown nude on camera if their not comfortable with it, nor should they be fired from or denied a role because their unwilling to do so... And there are a lot of story's out there about actresses in horror movies being pressured to do nude scenes out of fear they'd lose their roles in the film, and that practice is objectively disgusting.
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ThePunisher wrote:OCT 31 1978 wrote:I am not opposed to any type of graphic or non graphic themes shown in movies as long as it fits the story.
With that said some things are way over the top done for shock value some times it works some times it doesn’t that includes nudity and violence…..
One instance in a movie that comes to mind is Terrifier ( I haven’t seen the second not sure I will.) that scene with the saw was just ridiculous with over done nudity and violence combined….. for me that’s not what I want to see I want scares and thrills not to be disgusting…. But it’s a niche market and everything has a selling point to someone.
Did you see Saw 3 with the freezer scene?
Yes, it was over the top but in Saw III’s defense it is the third in a series that became labeled “ Torture Porn movies ” each film in the series topped the other in its graphic and violent scenes so by the third one you know what you are going to get and while watching the Freezer shower scene while jarring makes scenes in the context of the story with the traps become more elaborate and harder or impossible to escape since it’s Jigsaws would be apprentices’ making them…. The story becomes about testing them and punishing them for their wrong doing…..
but I went on a ramble.. if the freezer shower scene or the Girl hanging upside down with the saw scene from Terrifier was in the original Saw film I probably wouldn’t have watched the other films in the series… when there is no precedent for that kind of violence it doesn’t work for me story wise….. I actually like the first 5 saw films a lot 6 was ehh 7 was garbage Jigsaw was good I haven’t seen Spiral yet… but I do own it on Blu-ray…planning a Saw marathon very soon.
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Jason Voorhees wrote:OCT 31 1978 wrote:Jason Voorhees wrote:That is very true! Wes Craven and the writers were ahead of their time during this film!ThePunisher wrote:I guess the feeling is that sex sells the movie more than the plotline sells the movie. Remember the line from Scream " Motive is incidental"?I can definitely see this point of few! Horror definitely is losing the senses of being creepy, scary, and overall goosebumps-inducing! I have to rewatch Terrifier and might even see the sequel later this year in December because during the time I had no money to really see movies didn't even see Halloween Ends in Theatres sadly...OCT 31 1978 wrote:I am not opposed to any type of graphic or non graphic themes shown in movies as long as it fits the story.
With that said some things are way over the top done for shock value some times it works some times it doesn’t that includes nudity and violence…..
One instance in a movie that comes to mind is Terrifier ( I haven’t seen the second not sure I will.) that scene with the saw was just ridiculous with over done nudity and violence combined….. for me that’s not what I can to see I want scares and thrills not to be disgusting…. But it’s a niche market and everything has a selling point to someone.
No worries, you saved yourself a lot of money…..I didn’t watch it theaters either and I am glad I didn’t….. I would have most likely walk out.
I even realized the current Halloween timeline was honestly PG-13! I don't really remember seeing nudity or a sex scene!
Yeah there isn’t a sex scene at all in the new trilogy except for the make out “getting so dry fucked.” Scene in the 2018 movie…. Kills had nothing… Ends has Allyson and Corey having sex off screen…. So it was definitely very toned down in that aspect.
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I'm Not a Goalie wrote:You missed the biggest trope of them all! The seemingly mandatory, arguably hot girl undressing in the bathroom before climbing into the shower scene, that felt like it was a part of every slasher movie to come out of the 80's... And a lot more locker room scenes with an entire group of girls barring all, than you think would exist.
That is true! I forgot about that one!
I'm Not a Goalie wrote:I remember being a teenager, and the chance at seeing nudity in some of those horror films was definitely a selling point... But that was through the eyes of a hormonal teenager who, at the time, didn't have many avenues to scratch that particular itch unless you had a relative or friend with a hidden stash of a... Certain type of magazine, cough, cough.
You aren't wrong about that LOL! the older years were far different but now its just cheesy fun for the average lonely man.
I'm Not a Goalie wrote:Now that I'm an adult, I could honestly care less if I never saw another set of boobs or pointless sex scene in another horror movie ever again. I don't mind seeing it either, but obligatory nudity is at the absolute bottom of things I'm looking for in a horror movie. In fact, it's not even on the list at all.
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I'm Not a Goalie wrote:While the big franchises have never really needed nudity, although some of them definitely have used it, a lot of the second tier and below slasher films treated nudity and sex like they were a requirement, which I don't feel helped with the perception of sex in horror being an expectation rather than something that's occasionally just there.
Writers in those times were also former Porno writers like Sean Cunningham was once that.
I'm Not a Goalie wrote:And as much as I hate to get political, I don't feel like I have a choice since 'Horror' being sexist towards women has definitely become a Culture War issue. Male gaze, blah, blah, blah... How dare men find women in movies attractive, like there's not thousands of romcoms with insanely attractive men. Is it sexist? Depends on the circumstances, and quite frankly, the subject is very subjective. If the woman doesn't mind showing off her body then what's the big deal? Twitter warriors don't have the right to tell her she can't or try to shame her for doing so just because her actions don't comply with some snowflakes modern sensibilities. That being said though, no actor should be pressured or even forced to be shown nude on camera if their not comfortable with it, nor should they be fired from or denied a role because their unwilling to do so... And there are a lot of story's out there about actresses in horror movies being pressured to do nude scenes out of fear they'd lose their roles in the film, and that practice is objectively disgusting.
There are always two sides to this toxic feministic ideology and it's getting idiotic lol Men can't do anything without being seen as the Villian.
OCT 31 1978 wrote:Yeah there isn’t a sex scene at all in the new trilogy except for the make out “getting so dry fucked.” Scene in the 2018 movie…. Kills had nothing… Ends has Allyson and Corey having sex off screen…. So it was definitely very toned down in that aspect.
So I wasn't overthinking it! thank you!
Re: Is Nudity Unnecessary in Horror Films?
Part of why I watch horror movies is for the atmosphere and suspense. A brief flash of nudity will reinforce the notion of why Jason Vorhees exists in the first place and why Camp Crystal Lake is an example of what happens when horny teenagers run amok. Human nature is what it is, and sex has been a major driving force in everything we do. Today's society is full of irresponsible acts and lack of consequence, but at the same time, some reality has to set in at some point. To me, overexposure to nudity takes away from the storyline and ruins the atmosphere. We get it...They're having sex. Ooh, la,la. Now can we get back to a story? Halloween and Friday the 13th are prime examples of how a horror movie can function without flashing boobs all over. You want that, go watch one of the Bimbo Movie Bash classics like Hollywood Chainsaw Hookers or Slave Girls Beyond Infinity. You want meaningless nudity, watch those. Just my input. Cheers and game on, my friends
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Re: Is Nudity Unnecessary in Horror Films?
SonofOdin6039 wrote:Part of why I watch horror movies is for the atmosphere and suspense. A brief flash of nudity will reinforce the notion of why Jason Vorhees exists in the first place and why Camp Crystal Lake is an example of what happens when horny teenagers run amok. Human nature is what it is, and sex has been a major driving force in everything we do. Today's society is full of irresponsible acts and lack of consequence, but at the same time, some reality has to set in at some point. To me, overexposure to nudity takes away from the storyline and ruins the atmosphere. We get it...They're having sex. Ooh, la,la. Now can we get back to a story? Halloween and Friday the 13th are prime examples of how a horror movie can function without flashing boobs all over. You want that, go watch one of the Bimbo Movie Bash classics like Hollywood Chainsaw Hookers or Slave Girls Beyond Infinity. You want meaningless nudity, watch those. Just my input. Cheers and game on, my friends
Now, this is a very well-thought-out response to this thread thank you!
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